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The Dodds
| Date of Walk: |
17/7/2003 |
| Mountains Climbed: |
??? |
| Length of Walk: |
15 miles |
| Starting Point: |
Stanah (Sticks Pass) |
Grid Ref: NY 318189 |
| Route: |
Stanah, Sticks Pass, Stybarrow Dodd, Watson's Dodd?,
???, Randerside, Dockray, Old Coach Road, St John's In The Vale, Stanah |
As I mentioned in our walk over
the Helvellyn ridge on the 14/7/2003,
it is easy to blame the splendid weather and resulting extensive
views towards the Dodds, with the clearly defined path seen to stretch
towards Stybarrow Dodd for what happened on this walk, but at the
end of the day I have only myself to blame!
We had originally planned to climb Great Gable
from Seathwaite on our final walk, but having brought a print-out
of a Harveys map of the Dodds (in case we were feeling so energetic
that we wanted an extra walk on our day off), and not having "bagged"
any peaks on Tuesday's walk at Buttermere, we made a last minute
alteration to our schedule and decided to climb the Dodds instead
(three, or four if we went to Clough Head!, peaks instead of one
- no contest!!!).
Under normal circumstances, I would have read
up on our route and looked at the map to familiarise myself beforehand,
but all I had done in preparation for this one was skimming through
a couple of guide books, and all I remembered was that I had read
that the Dodds are confusing in mist. Well, guess what the weather
was like when we got there?!
Not that this put us off, and neither did the
fact that I had left my GPS behind, because we had seen the path
- a clearly defined path - no problem, all we had to do was follow
it from Sticks Pass over Stybarrow Dodd to Watson's Dodd and then
to Great Dodd, where we would make a decision, based on visibility
and how tired we were, whether to continue to Clough Head or simply
turn round and follow the clearly defined path back to Sticks Pass.
Simple!
Well, it started simply enough. We parked at
Stanah again, and followed Sticks Pass as before, but this time
the cloud was coming down all the time, and the visibility was soon
very poor. Joining us along the route were half a dozen youngsters
doing their Duke Of Edinburgh Award, and we commisserated with them
for having to spend a night out in these conditions. |
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View from Sticks Pass to High Rigg |
| We finally made it to the top of Sticks
Pass, where it was pouring with rain and generally very grim indeed.
But it did not matter - the clearly defined path was there and all
we had to do was follow it to Great Dodd and then turn around..... |
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David at sticks pass |
We walked along the path, and after
passing a couple of small cairns, arrived at a much larger one.
This appeared to be the highest point as far as we could see, which
was not far, but we took it to be the summit of Stybarrow Dodd.
Now, if we had done even a little bit of research,
we would have noticed the distinct absence of a bluish slate-like
stone in the top of the cairn, and had we looked at our map a little
more closely or, better still, got the compass out, we might have
noticed that the clearly defined path does not actually go over
the summit of Stybarrow Dodd. But it was the height of summer and
we knew what we were doing (!), so we didn't. |
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david at one of the cairns on stybarrow dodd - at
the time we thought it was the summit |
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Definitely NOT Stybarrow Dodd's Summit!!! |
From here, we walked and walked.
The clearly defined path was no longer clearly defined, so all we
could hope was that if we turned 180° when we got to the end,
we would get back to where we started from. There was nothing of
distinction to give us any clue where we were, and the visibility
was so poor that there were no views, not even to the edges.
After what seemed a long walk, considering the
distance we had seen there was between Stybarrow and Watson's Dodd,
we decided it was time to consult the map. We still did not notice
that the path bypassed Stybarrow Dodd's summit, but it did seem
reasonable to assume we had bypassed Watsons Dodd's summit and were
heading for Great Dodd. Not a problem, we would look for the little
tarn on the left in that case, to confirm that we were where we
thought we were.
Not very long afterwards, we arrived at a large
cairn, and the mountain ended shortly after this. David sat down
and ate his lunch in the pouring rain, while I tried to decide where
we were. We seemed to have walked in a straight line from Sticks
Pass, but we did not see a little tarn anywhere, let alone on our
left. But then again, I reasoned, the visibility was so poor and
the tarn so small that we may well have missed it.
I walked to the end, and there was no more mountain
there. I could just about make out some other mountains across the
gap, but they did not seem far enough away to make this Watson's
Dodd (I conveniently forgot the part of my navigation books that
tell you that it is easy to lose one's sense of distance is mist),
so I came to the conclusion that this must be Great Dodd. It seemed
funny that we had not had any noticable incline, but then again
on these rounded peaks, that can be difficult to estimate, so I
told myself and David, who had by now got up from the cairn and
joined me, which meant I was no longer a hundred percent certain
of which direction we had come from. I took David's picture at the
cairn, and we consulted the map again. |
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is this watson's dodd??? at the time we thought it
was great dodd |
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It certainly looks more like Watson's Dodd than Great
Dodd! |
A path led off in what appeared
to be a north-westerly direction, assuming of course that we were
still facing in the same direction as we arrived, and it felt as
though we were - we could see the path we had arrived on (well,
it was a path, and we had not seen any other paths, so it must be
the one we arrived on!). We could of course have got the compass
out and checked our bearing, but that would have been too simple
- besides, this was the middle of July and we were not "really"
lost.
So we took the path, following the theory that
this must be the way to Clough Head and if we could find that, according
to the map there was a Trig Point, which would be conclusive and
it would then be easy to find our way back.
But the path began ascending quite steeply (for
the Dodds anyway) and this did not seem to make sense according
to the map. I suggested the best thing we could do was turn around
and walk back the way we came, cut our losses and forget about today.
David was a little way from me by now, and he
turned around and so did I. I shouted across to him to come back
on the path, which was by now neither clear nor defined, so we would
not lose it, and he shouted back that he was on the path and it
was me that was losing it. We had now got two paths going different
ways and no sign of the summit we came from. We agreed to follow
my path, and before long arrived back at what we thought was the
same cairn that we left (on reflection, I'm not so sure).
We took what we assumed to be the path we originally
arrived on, and started walking back. After a while, I felt we should
be getting near to the point where the path did indeed become clearly
defined, but it remained very indistinct. "Do you remember
this?", I asked. "No", said David. So I decided this
was a good time to get my compass out. It said we were walking in
a generally northerly direction, which was quite obviously wrong
- we both knew that we were walking south, so we put the compass
away! At the back of my mind I knew of course that the compass must
be right, but as there did not seem to be anywhere else we could
walk at that point in time, short of going back to the cairn that
we did not know where it was, we might just as well continue walking
until we found something that would give us a clue as to our whereabouts. |
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i have no idea where this is! |
We passed a little tarn on our
right, which did not seem to make any sense (!), and then we started
climbing. Great - we must be back at Stybarrow Dodd. Now all we
had to do was get over the summit and back down to Sticks Pass.
We got to the summit with no problem, but it
did not look at all familiar. There was a huge cairn, which did
not look like anything we had seen so far, and our clearly defined
path was nowhere to be seen. I suggested we walk a circuit just
below the summit and look for the path, but this met with no success
whatsoever. I took a bearing as I had no idea where we had come
from by now, and we started walking south, following the compass,
in the hope of finding a path. We found no path, but soon arrived
at a shelter cairn, which made even less sense. By now we realised
we were completely lost. I studied the map in detail, with the rain
pouring down around us, but it was obvious there was no shelter
cairn on Stybarrow Dodd, so wherever we were, that was not it. I
was beginning to wish I was looking at an Ordnance Survey map, as
they are far more detailed when it comes to shelters and the like,
but I was not, and our best policy now seemed to be to try to find
a safe way down as soon as possible, and then worry about where
we were when we got there.
At the same time, the mist seemed to be clearing
a little, so the alternative was to sit down and hope the weather
improved, but that did not seem very proactive, so I suggested walking
to the edge, wherever that may be and see if was possible to see
what was below, as I am fairly good at recognising lakes and outlines
of fells and I thought I might see something that would tell me
where we were. We did get to the edge, and looking down I was able
to just about see a small valley with fields. I had expected to
see either Thirlmere or Ullswater, and this threw me completely.
Looking back, it was probably St John's in the Vale. Not recognising
it, and not finding a path, we returned to our bearing to the north-east,
where there was a path which although not clearly defined, was obviously
in regular use, and although I realised it would probably bring
us down on the Ullswater side, it appeared reasonable to assume
it would lead us down safely to a valley, where we could then worry
about getting back.
We walked over an area of rough stones (for the
Dodds), and looking at pictures in guidebooks when we got home,
it must have been Randerside, and eventually descended below the
clouds towards a valley and some woods ahead.
Eventually, we reached a track, where a man stood
looking at a map. Rather stupidly we asked, "Excuse me, do
you know where you are?". "Yes, thank you", was the
reply. "Would you mind telling us?", we asked. He looked
at us a little strangely, and we explained that we had got lost
on the Dodds and taken the first safe descent we could find. It
turned out he was waiting for some people to come down too, and
on hearing about the atrocious conditions up there realised that
they must be having problems too.
He told us that we on the Old Coach Road, and
that Dockray was ahead. He suggested that the best way back to the
car now would be along the Old Coach Road, round Clough Head, and
then back through St John's in the Vale to Stanah, which is what
we did.
By now the cloud had lifted completely, and it
was a glorious, sunny afternoon. As we walked along the Old Coach
Road it seemed ridiculous that we could have ever gotten lost, and
we were determined to return next time, properly equipped with maps
and GPS to sort out the Dodds once and for all. |
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Marial bridge on the old coach road on the long walk
back to the car |
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Mosedale Beck from Mariel Bridge |
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Looking towards great dodd, now in glorious sunshine,
from mariel bridge |
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Mart Crag from mariel Bridge |
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the old coach road towards clough head, with david
striding out in an effort to keep ahead of the many biting insects |
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Great Mell Fell and Little Mell Fell from the Old
Coach Road |
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blencathra from the old coach road |
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The old coach road |
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St John's in the vale with castle rock in distance |
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Clough Head and Great Dodd behind Fornside st john's
in the vale |
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the castle rock of triermain at the front of watson's
dodd |
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looking back to sticks pass from stanah |
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